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 Post subject: Project Log: Skaven Rat Orge to Daemon Prince conversion
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:59 pm 
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Alright, with the advent of the pre-order images of the new Skaven items, I've fallen in love with the huge Rat Ogre from the Screaming Bell set. I'll most likely be making the model itself into a Plague Furnace for fantasy, while the rest shall go to terrain for 40k-with the exception of the Grey Seer (A possible future sorcerer) and the Rat Ogre, whom will become a Daemon Prince for my army.



For those of you whom haven't seen the Plague Furnace and/or the Sprues...

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Having bought the current Rat Ogres previously (which I think need a re-sculpt as well), I know that this sucker will be BIG I mean seriously, look at the size of his hand and compare it to the sprue; it looks like he could reach up and yank the sprue out of place with no problem! Also, I saw that his left hand-the one that normally grips the main platform-is seperate, which will allow me to re-position it. The plan is:

1: Gussy up the figure itself

2: Make a good scenic base for him, give him more of a presence.

3: Find something good to make a sword, spear, halberd, or scythe out of to go in his right hand

4: Have something like a dead Guardsmen, (*Gasp*) Firewarrior, or bashed-up Marine held by their arm in this thing's left hand

5: Add wings! What good is a Daemon Prince without wings?!


For the weapon, a trip to RM here the other day led me to the following Rackham models as possible sources for weapons should I go the Scythe route:

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And the last update concerns the wings. Upon a quick skimming of the Warhammer Fantasy Battle Bits section, I came across a section solely for wings, which brings me to the following dilemma: which set of wings to choose?

Choice #1: Dragon Wings
Advantages: PLASTIC. This will make them lightweight and much easier to work with, as well as making things like re-shaping and bending much, MUCH easier.
Disadvantages: Possibly TOO large, and rather generic in appearance.

Choice #2: Winged Nightmare Wings
Advantages: Seem to be smaller yet still large enough, have a nice torn-up/abused appearance that befits a Nurgle Daemon Prince, and are more "folded" (which is something I'm looking for).
Disadvantages: Metal. Harder to work with and could present balance issues, and will be more likely to break off. Also, they're still a little too "open" for what I had planned.

Choice #3: Zombie Dragon Wings
Advantages: Compensates for the length by being rather narrow, making them more proportional to the figure I'll be using as the base model; they have a nice rotted look, even more so than the Winged Nightmare Wings.
Disadvantages: Metal again, and even with how much more slender they are they're still rather long.

Choice #4: Pegasus Wings
Advantages: Folded up rather tightly like I want, and the feathered look can still look rather Nurgle-y when done properly and help differentiate it from a Khornate Daemon.
Disadvantages: Metal yet again, and the feathers could make or break the model.

I'm still open to other suggestions; I want to know what you guys think!

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 Post subject: Re: Project Log: Skaven Rat Orge to Daemon Prince conversion
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:00 pm 
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sounds like this is gonna be a really cool project! :) A suggestion for the wings would be to make them yourself. My suggestion for this would be with armature wire and possibly manilla paper or some other tough paper. you would have to put paper on both sides so the wire doesn't show, but thats just my 2 cents. hope this helps

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 Post subject: Re: Project Log: Skaven Rat Orge to Daemon Prince conversion
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here you go, i found a site with a tutorial on how to make wings.

http://necrotales.com/necroTutorials/tut_wings01.php

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 Post subject: Re: Project Log: Skaven Rat Orge to Daemon Prince conversion
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well, this is a very exciting sounding project i wish you every luck.

As for the wings, i say keep looking :)

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 Post subject: Re: Project Log: Skaven Rat Orge to Daemon Prince conversion
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Hmmm, interesting tutorial...I'm startign to take a liking to the feathered look, though; they can either be blended itno the fur color to make them look more like fur (after a little bit of modifying of course), or contrasting the fur and such, but still looking dirty and old....it'll all depend on how the rest of the model comes out, adn the feathers would make it more recognizeable as Nurgle wings once painted instead of lookign like generic "Angry Red Git"/dragon wings.

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Thanks for all the help and encouragement, guys. After thinking for a while, I think I've decided on #2, the Winged Nightmare Wings. They seem to be of higher quality than the Zombie Dragon wings and lack the scaled "bases" that would be a pain to remove.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Log: Skaven Rat Orge to Daemon Prince conversion
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That Plague Furnace kit has some really cool bits. I might have to get me one of those, or sculpt up some similar stuff inspired by it.

I can see lots of converted weapons, objectives (maybe a shrine of some sort) in the top portion, and a plague tower built out of the chassis.

As far as the wings go, paper mopped on with gesso ain't bad, bud plastic or wire mesh (the kind on your window) covered up by sculpey or maybe greenstuff holds up a little better.

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Good news, everyone! I finally have the ogre, and I've assembled him AND given him wings!
Bad news: I left it in the bitz box at my cousin's place so he could get some of the SM bits out of it for his Canine Viking Twits he's working on.
Good news: He won't screw with my Skaven parts, so it's all good :)

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 Post subject: Re: Project Log: Skaven Rat Orge to Daemon Prince conversion
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BTW what's a rat orge? :lol:

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I has it back nowz!!!11!1!!! WIP Pictures coming VERY soon!

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Alright, it's about time; here he is so far!

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sick thing!!! but looking great

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this is looking good! :)

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