'Ello!
right i have been playing with army lists the last few days (its been to hot to paint or even glue stuff here!) and i have decided its pretty close to impossible (i.e. i can't manage to do it) to have a 1500 point list with bikers as the theme. So i have decided to try some 1750 lists instead and i am looking for your thoughts.
I hope to have avoided the 1500pts list with a couple of units added syndrome here as its themed around the bikes. I have a couple of lists here with slight differences....right then:

DP: wings, MoN, Warptime 175pts

sorcerer: Wind of Chaos, MoN, BIKE! 180pts

6X BIKES!: champion, Power Fist, MoN, 2X flamers, melta bomb 303pts

7X BIKES!: champion, power fist, MoN, 2X melta guns 341pts

7x PM: Champion, power fist, 2X melta, rhino 256pts

7X PM: 2X plasma, rhino 226pts

7X PM: 2X plasma 191pts

6X Lesser daemons 78pts

TOTAL: 1750


list two:


DP: wings, MoN, Warptime 175pts

sorcerer: Wind of Chaos, MoN, BIKE! 180pts

6X BIKES!: champion, Power Fist, MoN, 2X flamers, 298pts

7X BIKES!: champion, power fist, MoN, 2X melta guns 341pts

7x PM: 2X plasma, rhino 236pts

7X PM: 2X plasma, rhino 226pts

7X PM: 2X plasma 191pts

dreadnought: 2 CC weapons, heavy flamer 105pts

TOTAL: 1752pts

thoughts?

I like both list, but I think I like the firs one better. But on the other hand, you could always add a gou to you second list instead of the dread, I think that would work pretty good!

Like the first list better! And you know why...

BUT! To do the list cooler... I would have swap the prince for a greater daemon. Add champs to the plasma-squads in the rhinos. And boost up the daemons.

i like the second list better... the dread does funny things.. and has more chance of doing actually something

The biggest problem I see is that you have noting to draw the s8+ away from the bikers. T4(6) is awesome until that blast template hits. Las cannons, meltas, plasma - it will all be on the biker squads and prince.

I run nurglish oblits and a nurgled defiler in every list I make for that very reason. I pay 150 points for an average of 2 battlecannon shots, but everything else gets a free pass until the defiler is dead.

Leaving the list as is, I would make one of the plague champs naked and one of the biker champs naked and take a guo instead of a dread. I have had trmendous luck using bikers to bring the greater daemon in where I want him.